Game of Thrones
Game of Thrones

Wondering what article Sarah is referring to? I shall (cautiously) post a link to it here, but please don’t hold me responsible for any spontaneous combustion fueled by pure rage that occurs from reading said article. Link to stupid article in question.

If you need a dose of zen after reading that, or just want to hear more geek girls ranting about it, here are some articles that I quite enjoyed:

Newsarama Rant-o-rama!
Geeks with Curves – (Also has a great article on the site about her trip to the Game of Thrones themed food cart, run by Chef Tom Colicchio, where she met George R.R. Martin. An epic tale of geek worlds colliding!)
‘Today’ weighs in on why geek girls are a market force to be reckoned with

EDIT: George R.R. Martin break his usual ‘no comment’ rule to respond to the NYTimes article!

News: Posted April 21st, 2011 by Alina

^ 47 Comments to “Game of Thrones”

  1. It’s so weird, now, to hear “girls don’t read fantasy, that’s BOY TERRITORY” because when I was younger fantasy was a girl thing. Boys read science fiction. HARD SCIENCE FICTION. Like Asimov and Heinlein. Elves? Magic? Dragons? THAT IS GIRL STUFF. Or else gay. Which is totally worse than being girl stuff because failure to perform heterosexual masculinity is a fate worse than death. DEATH I SAY.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 1:37 am
  2. david Says:

    thank you i had a bet on how long it would take you to refrence the new series woth a friend. I get 10 dollars now, and get to enjoy a stupid article now.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 1:48 am
  3. Michael Says:

    It’s nice to know, that although I’m considered a sexist pig, there will always be empowered power-women that outdo every man in existence in terms of prejudice against women.

    Don’t be mad at her. She may have had a bad day and really have broken a nail that day.

    And drat, now I have to read the books. In order to be able to mock the series when it comes to Germany. 🙂

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 2:16 am
  4. Pia Says:

    Such a crappy review. Just to point out, we are women out here, who just can’t stand reading harliquin type of novels, but who are still very feminine, wear dresses and like make-up. And also love Game of Thrones. I can’t wait until I get a chance to see it in my country. The books are awesome!

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 2:52 am
  5. Thanks for the article(s) – my girlfriend being a very big bibliophile (only hampered by the fact that, living in France, we have to basically import all the fantasy she enjoys reading), I just had to refer her to this comic (and the “what the FUDGE” article)…
    Thanks again for the chuckles! 😀

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 3:03 am
  6. Cagliostro Says:

    Did this moron even ever read some of the Song?
    There is sex and romance aplenty! Catelyn and Ned! Daenerys and Drogo (and her maidens and companions, later)! Sansa and Joffrey (she admires her fair prince for quite awhile, until … )! Jon and Ygritte! Tyrion and Shae! Cersei and Jamie! Arya and bloody murder! Probably even Littlefinger and Sansa would count … of course, none of them end very happy, but that would be kind of a theme here …

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 3:19 am
  7. pfogg Says:

    I could swear that when George R. R. Martin came up at a genre bookstore, they said his books sold much more heavily to women than men (for which no explanation was offered). No idea if that is or was true, but it gives that article a surreal kind of spin.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 5:09 am
  8. rb Says:

    too bad that (vacant) geek girls appealing to the eye in my circles are as rare as epic (or similar) grade loot in a newbie area. or way off age D=

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 6:29 am
  9. gnrrrg Says:

    Never seen ‘Game of Thrones’, never even played the board game. But, still, stuff like that happens. Everyone knows the ‘Top Gun’ was just a chick-flick with jets thrown in to keep the boyfriends happy. Still, it was a horribly written article, so I’d have to give Sarah’s rant more credibility even if she is a manga fan.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 8:16 am
  10. Caelonna Says:

    I think my favorite part is Mark & Dustin’s reactions to Sarah’s rant.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am
  11. Pisha Says:

    (gnrrrg – well, no, I can’t imagine anyone would play the board game without reading the books. I love the books, and board games in general, and although I own the board game we still haven’t figured out how to play it.)

    So we’ve got a reviewer who doesn’t like fantasy, reviewing a fantasy show. Ok, so far as it goes. Was it really necessary to include gratuitous sexism, as well as make unfounded allegations that make it clear that she didn’t do even a LITTLE bit of research?

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 9:33 am
  12. Hornet Says:

    To start with I have a guestion? Why would they have to add sex scenes to get women to watch? Romance maybe but not sex.

    However when it comes to sex and brutality in fiction may I suggest either Terry Goodkind or Sara Douglass.

    Ooh and last but not least Love how Sarah’s hair comes to life.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 9:53 am
  13. Jack Says:

    I like the idea that they had to ADD romance and sex to the series. If anything the first episode had less romance than the original scenes.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 11:12 am
  14. If I could curl my hair by just getting pissed, I’d have a righteous rant right out of the shower. Awesome!

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 11:20 am
  15. Brenda Says:

    I agree 1000%.

    Also, I’m a little worried Alina was looking over my shoulder when I told two of my guy friends about the Episode and the Article. The reactions of Mark and Dustin are eerily similar to theirs. I had less flames than Sarah though.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 11:35 am
  16. Foxfier Says:

    NYT does this all the time with anything that’s outside of their immediate experience. If it’s something that isn’t cool they’ll give it to someone who doesn’t even like whatever they’re covering.

    Because, you see, they are the paper of record– so if they don’t know something, it’s not worth knowing. /eyeroll/

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 11:38 am
  17. The review was egregious enough that George R. R. Martin actually responded to the critic. It’s a good read

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/210874.html

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
  18. Dru Says:

    ilusm for this ^_^

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 12:19 pm
  19. Alex Says:

    I love the little touches of insanity in this comic…like the fire…and that they have consequences…like Dustin’s hair:-)

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 1:09 pm
  20. Jen Says:

    I read The Hobbit and all three volumes of LOTR in less than a week, and have since began my new obsession with Game of Thrones novels (until she show comes out on dvd)…I think I made Sarah’s face just reading the paraphrased comic of this total toolbag who thinks chicks don’t read anything but harlequins. Pfft.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 3:04 pm
  21. Jenn Says:

    I had to look up who this “Lorrie Moore” person was (not my kind of fiction at all)…. but I’ve read the Hobbit three times! Anyone else?

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 3:14 pm
  22. Morwen Says:

    Alina, thanks a lot for reviewing that… written thing in the NYT. My English is not good enough for describing either that article or the amount of fury it created.

    And now I’ll go and tell all the girl geeks I know here in Spain. All those girls that went and downloaded the series, in a foreign language, so they could see it earlier. We must really like sex scenes.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 5:13 pm
  23. Cala Says:

    Ha! I heard about that article and immediately went to watch GoT out of spite. It’s a little less dramatic if I tell you I’d planned to previously and forgot, but whatever. It’s kind of funny how big of a splash it’s made.

    Guess I’m one of those ‘long time reader, first time poster’ type people. I’m a bit of a weregeek but still lock myself in the closet on full moons 😉

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 5:30 pm
  24. It occurs to me that the people who think girls don’t like fantasy all need to take a look at the literary world. How do they think gothic romance got started? It certainly wasn’t with Twilight, and that’s also not how the vampire thing came about. But it is where the sparkles came from. Ugh.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 6:21 pm
  25. Trueblader Says:

    I read that article and all I can say is “RL Straw Feminist much?” well I said it after I got my head back together do to the critical logic fail of the article. Nice comic as always

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 7:24 pm
  26. Sean Samonas Says:

    For me, the thing that I found the most offensive about it was her attitude. Twice (in defending herself) she uses the phrase “I’m sure there are girls who are into this thing…I just don’t know any.”

    Reading between the lines there, it just sounds like she is saying, “Hey, there are Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monsters, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and girl nerds out there…I just don’t know any.” She makes it sound like they don’t exist…or they are a tall tale all us male nerds sit around and talk about.

    “This one time…I swear this is true, I went to a DnD con and there was a chick there. I swear! She even played a character, wasn’t some guys girlfriend who got dragged there…she was totally into it.” Like you girl nerds are the Moby Dick to our Ahab or something… *eyeroll*

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 8:16 pm
  27. Incendi Says:

    Oh man….why do I feel that I would pull a Sarah if I’d read this article?

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 10:26 pm
  28. Zulmax Says:

    Ok this reminds me of a historic review I saw of Chryslers turbine car guy said it melted pavement and set yards on fire…Mind you he had never even actually seen the car. So I honestly wouldnt be surprised if she has never picked up a fantasy/sci-fi/crossbreed book do to it might tarnish the image of her romance novels and my little pony coloring books…..If she can stereotype so shall I just to be a hypocrite.

    Posted April 21st, 2011 at 11:24 pm
  29. I am literally twitching over here having read that thing.

    And now I must read those books were were only vaguely on my to do list before. And I will like them. To spite her. *twitch*

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 4:10 am
  30. Adam Says:

    The funny thing is, the article itself has no user comments, like nobody really cares what that person thinks….

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 am
  31. Balala Says:

    What the Heck man? I’m a girl, and I don’t even know who Lorrie Moore is, and I’m certainly not interested. On the other hand, I certainly know and have read The Hobbit. And yes, like Jenn higher-up said, I read Lord of the Rings in just about a week, too.

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 8:22 am
  32. Nathan Says:

    Weird they would say that fantasy was guy stuff. Most of the guys I grew up with wouldn’t read anything that didn’t say Sports or Guns somewhere in the title.

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 9:33 am
  33. Nathan Says:

    Ahh! Brain hurts from poorly written article. I hope she got the job as a gift from daddy and not on skill.

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 9:38 am
  34. Veet Voojagig Says:

    Riiiight. So, as a lesbian geek, I’ll only watch fantasy shows if they have girl-on-girl action. By the reviewer’s logic, at least. Looks like I’m going to be very bored with Game of Thrones.

    (Which is insanely awesome, by the way. I loved it. I’ve been a fan of the books for AGES.)

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 11:32 am
  35. Vojtech Pribyl Says:

    I really wonder if the autor of the article is really that DUMB or just cleverly provoking (just imagine how many visitors would have been to the site).

    Well, for me personally the sex scenes in the books are rather annoyingly detailed as they delay the story (just my perspective) and I am a guy (Aren’t we supposed to be after porn all the time?) *Snicker* We’re in information age, no? If someone with basic Google competence wants to see sex, the internet will provide. It was part of the book, it got in the movie. No way it had to be added to attract someone 😛

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
  36. Foxfier Says:

    Nathan –
    Ginia Bellafante has been a NYT writer since at least 1993, according to the google news search I just did. (didn’t bother to click through– NYT’s site is pretty screwy about actually putting you at the link you clicked, let alone letting you do a decent search.)

    She was also born in 1965, so she’s probably one of those gals who tried to tell my mom (an original Tolkien geek and former school teacher) that girls didn’t read fantasy, and might’ve been in college when D&D was “only for geeky guys.” If she followed the pattern of setting her image of the world from her experience in college, then it makes sense.

    Posted April 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
  37. WyrmPilot Says:

    If adding sex makes “girls” like fantasy, why are none of the female geeks I know interested in reading John Norman?

    Posted April 23rd, 2011 at 12:52 am
  38. Bookwyrm Says:

    As an avid fantasy reader (of many writers), and, yes, proud to be a Girl Geek, I was incensed by this woman’s attitude. I was seriously cheesed off when I discovered I couldn’t leave a comment. Then I discovered on G.R.R. Martin’s LiveJournal page (Thanks for the link!) that the Times shut the comments link because they were overwhelmed! Woo Hoo! Never p!ss off a Fan! And Alina, thank you for this totaling rockin’ comic. It helped me discover my inner Geek. (For real!)

    Posted April 23rd, 2011 at 1:47 am
  39. whims Says:

    Wow… New York Times columnists are trolling now?

    Actually, if you ignore the random flailing in the content, her underlying objection (no pun intended) is that a major entertainment company has invested in a production without any attempt to include material that appeals to her. If we switch to first person pronouns, I think we can all agree that’s a problem, when it occurs.

    Posted April 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 pm
  40. Paul Says:

    No fUry like a female scorned should be change to , no fury like a female geek scorned….

    Posted April 23rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
  41. Gina Says:

    my honest to god first question as i read through the stupidness was “who is Lorrie Moore”? and even after looking her up, still dont really have a clue, but there are 3 copies of the hobbit throughout my house.

    Posted April 24th, 2011 at 12:06 am
  42. Shawn Says:

    I read that article. I was offended as well. Obviously, the “reviewer” has never read even one of the books. Ignorant woman.
    Also, Gabby is my fave character, but I’ve never liked Sarah more than in her “righteous indignation” form! Heheheh.

    Posted April 24th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
  43. chipperdyke Says:

    great comic, RIDICULOUS article!!!!
    Being a guy with boobs myself… hahah..
    it’s an outrage against all females. grrrr….

    Posted April 24th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
  44. Zathael Says:

    “One does not walk into King’s Landing”

    Posted April 25th, 2011 at 3:39 am
  45. KenderBryant Says:

    In regards to your Marvel sketches: I LOVE THEM! You picked four of my faves (I’m not including Marrow because I’m not as familiar with her as with the others).

    Posted April 25th, 2011 at 7:26 am
  46. Mercy Says:

    Girls don’t read fantasy? Oh, dear, I had better not confess to my complete obsession with Lord of the Rings, then.

    Posted April 25th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
  47. gnrrrg Says:

    Sorry, no, superhero based cereals would just lead to bad puns.

    Harley Quinn’s catch phrase would have something to deal with Sugar Smacking people around. The Joker would be Crazy for Cocoa Puffs. Don’t get me started on Wolverine and Shredded Wheat.

    Stop the madness before it starts.

    Posted April 27th, 2011 at 8:21 am