Death Saves
Death Saves

Better hope she rolls well…

News: Posted October 3rd, 2018 by Alina

^ 26 Comments to “Death Saves”

  1. matthew moffatt Says:

    never played a proper game of D&D, can couple break up over stuff like this?

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 1:56 am
  2. maarvarq Says:

    Better give her death save a “I want my gf to keep talking to me” bonus.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 3:05 am
  3. robert pettigrew Says:

    Have DM’ed for partners and also had couples in game, it can get a bit strained at times but I have found that my girlfriends always insisted on me playing with a level field. Never known or even heard of people splitting up over a RPG but do know of people sleeping on the couch etc.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 3:21 am
  4. Treviisolion Says:

    Okay, how new is she to D&D? I encountered Death Saving Throws in the first campaign I’ve ever played in, within the first few sessions as well, and it was for a bunch of new players, though admittedly the DM was new and still working on how to make challenging combat without causing TPK with larger than average group sizes.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 5:19 am
  5. Treviisolion Says:

    In reply to Matthew Moffatt: Yes, but like any break-up/divorce over a game, the game itself was almost certainly just the most noticed factor among several much deeper and subtler factors. D&D can cause fights, but fights do not by themselves end relationships.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 5:28 am
  6. Killer Klown Says:

    Some people get pretty attached to their characters; but I’ve never seen a breakup over character death happen firsthand. Usually it’s the opposite: the GM’s SO (Or person the GM _wants_ to be their SO) gets seemingly preferential treatment – padded dice rolls, better ‘random’ loot, nerfed consequences, etc.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 7:19 am
  7. Saronian Says:

    Yep, it happens more often than you think.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 7:24 am
  8. Kaunisnekeli Says:

    @mtthew moffatt Perhaps, but I would suggest that a couple that does was headed for a breakup anyway and the D&D game was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 7:32 am
  9. Paperiahma Says:

    @matthew moffatt Eh, some extremely petty couples? Probably. There are people who break up over the slightest thing. But mature players? Nah. But I think what we see here is just the gang poking fun at the situation. Harmless fun (maybe slightly at Joel’s expense ;D) to help with the tension.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 7:39 am
  10. MtnKing Says:

    It can happen, if the parties take it personally. It looks like she’s not – that’s clearly a joke in the last panel, and her first reaction was “I’m cool with it”.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 7:51 am
  11. Dominic Says:

    You don’t see couples breaking up over this itself, but D&D can bring out symptoms of bigger problems in relationships – not just romantic relationships, but other social relationships as well. D&D is a safe world to act out feelings and frustrations. Sometimes they reflect real world feelings and frustrations.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 7:57 am
  12. CelticDragon38 Says:

    If a couple breaks up over stuff like this, they were in trouble to begin with and the PC death wasn’t the cause.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 8:05 am
  13. Hfar Says:

    @matthew moffatt It wouldn’t surprise me if there have been, but I’d say no more likely than any other thing in life. It’s kind of mind boggling the things people have broken up for.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 10:36 am
  14. Stumpy the Paladin Says:

    If they do break up over killing a character that was played maybe 3 times; then they were gonna break up anyway. Its like getting in a knock down, drag out, neighbors call the cops, fight over doing the dishes.

    Its not the dishes that matters and it never was . Its the (pick any one of the following) unequal distribution of labor/money/effort being put into the relationship/suspicion of cheating/excuse to have makeup sex

    Now suppose a DM kills off a Significant Other’s character that had been in use longer than the two had been dating … and/or has a certain sentimental value.

    >>>That is grounds for instant couch sleeping<<>>That is grounds for instant couch sleeping<<<
    And you better hope (as the DM) that the rest of your relationship is solid. Because that S.O. will use your time on the couch to consider just why exactly do they put up with that DM.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 10:42 am
  15. Adam D Says:

    *Technically* Yes…. but it’s not very likely… It all depends though. If you had a character in a campaign that spanned years, and you killed off your SO’s character… some people may take that personally.

    I knew a couple of bf/gf combos that were on the outs in college when 1 wouldn’t save the other from a bad decision/bad luck on the dice.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 10:58 am
  16. BaufenBeast Says:

    If a couple broke up over stuff like this, there were larger underlying problems with their relationship already. It’s not like he was targeting her, just that her character got into melee and he followed through on his promise to not hold back with the die rolls.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 11:25 am
  17. Ol'timer Says:

    @matthew: you’d be surprised how seriously people can take these games. One invests emotionally in his/her character, and some people just can’t make the distinction between theirs and their character’s emotions. I’ve seen shit online you wouldn’t believe.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 11:50 am
  18. DiploRaptor Says:

    The group is at least level 6 or something considering they are fighting Yuan-Ti.
    I’m just wondering why waste time turning wraiths. Also ouch i’m guessing not allowed to take averages and she rolled poorly with that mix of d8’s and d6’s for her hp. Just ouch that has got to hurt

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 11:52 am
  19. Expandingmind Says:

    @matthew moffatt- if they are good for each other? No. Bit if her character does, she will probably hold it against him for a couple of days. Know my ex did.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 12:09 pm
  20. Fnors Says:

    I just had a game yesterday (of Shadow of the Demonlord, a old school kind of DnD), where I got instantly killed TWICE in the same game. With two different characters! Basically, there is a mechanic that if you take damage greater than your max health, you are dead dead. I got really unlucky.

    Good times though, it was a new record in my playing group. 🙂

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 12:57 pm
  21. Solx Says:

    FYI: In panel 4 is it should say “… when YOU fail …”. You missed the “you” 🙂 Thanks for constantly providing a great comic!

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 12:58 pm
  22. Jolly Red Giant Says:

    If my wife caught me giving her character special treatment when I DM, THATS when I’d be put in the doghouse.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 4:25 pm
  23. Pharmakeus Ubik Says:

    Maybe you can get a raise dead on your love life later in the adventure.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 8:01 pm
  24. Ryan Walters Says:

    Generally speaking, the expectation should be that the external relationships that players have with their GM’s should not be taken into account when determining results. It should not be expected that DM favoritism creates plot armor on a specific character unless that same plot armor handholds the whole party. The comments generally are like, “This kind of thing doesn’t create breakups”, and yeah, it shouldn’t.

    The players and the DM sort of have a contract of expectations as well as to how this stuff in handled. If the group is very casual, the expectation likely is that there is a way to fail forward to keep the characters alive no matter the situation. If the group is in very deadly meat grinder situations, that should also be clearly communicated.

    It’s all about the communication of expectations, just like other aspects of life social contracts.

    Posted October 3rd, 2018 at 8:15 pm
  25. Shinjischneider Says:

    I remember back in the day when i was DMing a game of WOD and my partner was one of the players.

    In one session i had a huge plottwist. The young vampire servant of the vampire prince turned out to be a mage in disguise (Aura Manipulation & Body Manipulation) and attacked the prince with an artificial sun.

    My Partner got furious and i was actually scared they might punch me in the face.

    The next session was the last game of P&P they ever played. Not because they were actually angry at me for the plottwist, but because they got too involved in their character. When they lashed out at me, it was because they were experiencing their characters emotions.

    Still, i was scared shitless XD

    Posted October 4th, 2018 at 3:51 am
  26. Krixous Says:

    I once had a divorce happen mid session over the fact that the wife’s paladin would not be ok with the husband’s warlock looting a dead guy’s (sorry forget what he was it was something big) coffin both started going its what my character would do (classic douche bag excuse by the way) as their characters started fighting by the time the argument ended the session was done and by the next session they were in the proceedings for divorce.

    Posted October 5th, 2018 at 12:30 am