Ashamed of a friend, ashamed of himself
Ashamed of a friend, ashamed of himself

It’s been a rough day of self-realization for Mark

News: Posted October 22nd, 2019 by Alina

^ 21 Comments to “Ashamed of a friend, ashamed of himself”

  1. Eva Says:

    There we go. Good job catching yourself that time, Mark. You’ll get there.

    Posted October 23rd, 2019 at 3:57 pm
  2. Shinjischneider Says:

    Guess it’s exactly what we predicted it to be.

    Posted October 23rd, 2019 at 4:29 pm
  3. Duck Says:

    Man… so, what game is this going to turn out to be a part of? To be hones,t I’m still sad they didn’t have real powers.

    Posted October 23rd, 2019 at 8:58 pm
  4. Gene Wirchenko Says:

    Good people can afford to call themselves rotten and are not.

    Rotten people do not dare see themselves as rotten and are.

    Posted October 23rd, 2019 at 9:40 pm
  5. DannyboyO1 Says:

    Your pain is always valid. It is not a contest. You do not have to suffer the most to get help… unless it’s a triage situation… but in that case, like, worry more if you don’t wait.

    And someone who suffers the same thing, for longer? Actually can have advice to help. I have severe depression that I fight against constantly. I have friends with other chronic conditions. When I finally started getting treatment and have been open and honest about some of my coping mechanisms… it’s helped us to share.

    Pro-tip: carnation makes this instant-breakfast drink, there’s a pre-made version. It’s fortified chocolate milk. $6-7 for a six-pack. Each one is a meal you can keep down despite nausea. And it keeps! For me, it’s a thing I can consume in place of a meal I can’t bear to eat… and end up able to eat the next one… instead of being miserable for many hours and feeling bad that I can’t fix it by just doing that thing literally every form of life can manage.

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 7:18 am
  6. Mother Gothel Says:

    That can’t be it. That doesn’t sound like a reason to become verbally and physically violent against other people (especially those you love!). Not to mention to develop the self-injurious behavior up to suicidal thoughts.
    A depression, yes. Inferiority complexes, yes.
    But for all the hardcore things that have happened – that MUST be more to the bottom.

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 7:44 am
  7. CalamityWren Says:

    Man, I just want to give him a hug. I have been there. I always try to remember that I am my harshest critic and that I am the last person to forgive myself. :: SIGH ::

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 7:52 am
  8. Rock Says:

    Once those floodgates open, it’s really hard to close them again. :-/ This … is going to take some time. And maybe a couple of pots of strong tea.

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 9:59 am
  9. Rich Says:

    I never talked about gaming around muggles. Went through too much weirdness and (not my) parental judgement about it. But when I got married, my wife essentially outed me. She had no idea I kept that quiet. “Oh you should talk to Rich, he plays a lot!”

    My initial reaction was “what? wait! nooooooo…” But it was too late. Since then I’ve been at least normal about it. A lot of people hide this side of their lives because they’ve faced derision and contempt in the past. We’ve all probably encountered it. I don’t think Mark’s much different than most people. He had a bad night and he’s definitely not suited for sharing a relationship with another person.

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 10:42 am
  10. N0083rP00F Says:

    @Gene Wirchenko – That is called being a “Good” politician or executive – for varying definitions for the term “good”.

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 10:53 am
  11. Jess Says:

    Sigh… oh Mark. Please just accept you need therapy already. Like yesterday – or a year ago. Seriously, it helps! I speak from experience. Dare I hope that Dustin’s facial expression in the last panel is not just that of a friend who cares but also that of a friend who realises that Mark needs professional help, not just his friends?

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 11:18 am
  12. Thulcandran Says:

    What’s especially interesting about this is that Mark was never “dishonest” in the way most people think of it – he didn’t cheat on Jess, after all, and most people would consider a non-sexual secret hobby a pretty mild issue. He wasn’t even dishonest in the way Sarah was, using an in-game issue to conceal feelings.

    But he’s dishonest about his /feelings/, particularly those of shame and vulnerability, and that wound up poisoning his relationships, platonic and romantic alike – possibly worse than actual outright lying would have. Lying to Ravenia about his insecurities wound up being way more toxic than he realized.

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 2:23 pm
  13. Kobold Says:

    I love Dustin’s expression in the last panel… looks kinda like “jeeeeez, is that what you’re so upset about? And here was me thinking it was something serious…”

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 3:44 pm
  14. Edward Egan Says:

    I am most likely quite a bit older then most people who read web comics. I was born in 1959 which makes me 60. over that time I have gone from a young man who was pretty much angry and mean and hated everything. To someone who now hates almost nothing. Other then bad crap like racism, corporate greed, lies , thievery, corruption , sexual harassment and the current president because he embodies all the previous. But over that time life kicked my ass a lot. I made many mistakes. and I learned from every single one. I met many people some enriched my life others trashed me. I learned from everyone of them too. I learned take chances on one ever got anything or anywhere hiding. you don’t go out and live your life you wind up with nothing and no one. Give everyone you meet a chance. Judging by what you see with your eyes cheats you out of finding a lot of great people. ( yes I admit it also cuts down on the number of assholes you meet too. but life doesn’t come with guarantees ) Talk with them get to know them. Trust to a point at first and let them build trust with you and you with them. build yourself your own village of friends. from every walk of life you can. Then when you hit sinkholes like mark is here. You have that village to pull you out. Like his friends are doing for him now. They are his village. Is what I am telling you to do easy? Hell no. it’s the hardest thing you will ever do. Will you get hurt? You will get flattened and then stomped on. and maybe even kicked while your down. But if you take the route I am saying you should when you get to the place I am now at the age I am now. you will look back and say. DAMN that was rough. But at the same time fun as hell. and major adventure. it was more then all worth it. And that what mark is doing he screwing up and learning from it. his village is helping him become a better mark. will he never screw up again? nope. he will definitely screw up again. maybe even more so then this time. But that’s how we learn. my Grandfather asked me when I was about 15 what experience was. I said that was what you had aver you did something hundreds of times. he said. NO that isn’t it. I asked then what is it? he said. That’s what you have after you say to yourself ” I bloody well will never do that again!!” ( he was from Ireland) > looking back he was 100% right.

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 4:06 pm
  15. Ari Says:

    Older than Edward Egan
    Female
    Gamer Geek (amongst other geekdoms) – often the only female GM (my ex played so there were often 2 of us), Bi, Wiccan

    Closets are for brooms.

    Come out come out wherever you are

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 7:40 pm
  16. Cyrus Says:

    Jess, good news! Mark is literally relating all of this to a therapist RIGHT NOW!

    Posted October 24th, 2019 at 11:39 pm
  17. Gene Wirchenko Says:

    @N0083rP00F: No. It is that bad people cannot afford introspection.

    Posted October 25th, 2019 at 12:06 am
  18. Bagge Says:

    I’ve always felt that one of the biggest problems with Mark and Jess’ relationship was not what either of them did, but what Mark felt the need to be (and I felt that was more on him than her).

    Really good that he starts to articulate that and admit it to himself.

    Posted October 25th, 2019 at 12:33 am
  19. Roxxer Says:

    That’s it? That’s the big revelation? It feels kinda tame to me.

    Posted October 25th, 2019 at 9:49 am
  20. Gene Wirchenko Says:

    CalamityWren: Oh, yeah. And sometimes, the other person might not even think the issue of consequence.

    Posted October 25th, 2019 at 2:58 pm
  21. DocMcConvoy Says:

    Well, call me the devils advocate if you like, but the story has not taken on, so maybe he is not finished with his revelations. I think we should wait a little if not something more ugly will surface soon.

    Posted October 28th, 2019 at 8:14 am