Chaotic weirdos
Chaotic weirdos

Technically, ALL D&D groups are chaotic wierdos…

News: Posted May 5th, 2020 by Alina

^ 32 Comments to “Chaotic weirdos”

  1. q`Tzal Says:

    Awwwww, she wants someone to smooch.
    Preferably someone who makes swords.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 1:54 am
  2. Kate Says:

    Excuse me, I’m a LAWFUL weirdo. 🙂

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 2:16 am
  3. Vince Says:

    Abby….please, stand up for yourself…

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 7:12 am
  4. Meadblondie Says:

    “Aww that was such a heartwarming change of pace. Super cute AND fun.

    Now commence with the drama! Back to the plot!”

    -Our DM- 2009

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 7:13 am
  5. Meadblondie Says:

    Is it the talk with Katie that’s eating Abbie up? The worring about Mark probably not being invited to the tournament? Or is she starting to feel like a 3rd wheel because almost everyone around her seems to have a S.O. now? Not to imply that she’s feeling loney without a partner but that the inevitable happens with these “guys with girlfriends, maaan” as that little P&P film “the gamers” put it.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 7:27 am
  6. Azrael Says:

    What Katie said about Mark is still on her mind, huh?

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 8:18 am
  7. Grampybone Says:

    Methinks someone is missing a friend…

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 8:19 am
  8. I guess Abbie is sad about the Mark stuff? Which… makes sense. There was good discussion in the comments when Katie brought it up, but I think no matter where you fall on that, it’s easy to see how this is a really uncomfortable and sad position for Abbie to be in.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 10:26 am
  9. She should stop thinking about calling Mark and just do it!

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 10:49 am
  10. Wanderer Says:

    Yeah, now for the not-fun part: Telling Mark he’s no longer welcome at the table. Being the messenger really stinks, sometimes.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 10:51 am
  11. Somebody Someone Says:

    I smell an outgoing call to Mark in the very near future …

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 12:03 pm
  12. Joe Says:

    Aw, poor Abbie. This is exactly how I’ve been feeling this whole crazy-ass lockdown, missing my group of weirdoes. Yeah there’s text but that’s never quite the same as actually being there in person with people.

    I do realize that there may be other things on her mind given the context of the previous strips however.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 12:20 pm
  13. Griffin Says:

    Poor Abbie… she and Mark need to get together already. They’d make a good couple.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 1:41 pm
  14. Scarecrow Says:

    Ooooof! Poor Abbie…

    I can’t help but wonder if Mark would have been far better off if he hadn’t met these people. Yes, he had the unfuflfilled itch…but he also had a stable relationship. His life wasn’t a constant eruption of drama. And he wasn’t miserable and ostracized.

    I’m sure this won’t get much traction on this board that no doubt is heavily (exclusively?) populated by gamers…but there’s a sobering truth: gamers aren’t -better- people; they’re just -different-. There seems to be a sense of “We (they) have to -fix- Mark! Or bend him to our(their) preferences!” i.e., appropriate his personality and replace it with one of their choosing. Yet…isn’t that what they rail against in others?

    Abbie, as always, is (along with Mark) the emotional core. They are the only two characters who have shown growth. I recall a literary comparison – “Marlowe and Dunne and the others -revealed- character, but Shakespeare was the first to show character in evolution.” Sarah, Kate, Joel, Dustin and others are all interesting in their own way – they are. But they are as full of faults as anyone. but only Abbie and Mark have evolved.

    What I really like about this arc is it builds more on Abbie is NOT just the Manic Pixie Dream Girl. She’s probably the most complex character in the strip. Very well written! (and still ‘shipping her and Mark because sure, they’re both my favs and you want those happy endings!)

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 2:06 pm
  15. Frank Bromley Says:

    not sure what’s worse Katie being to cowardly to tell mark herself or that she was the only one to ask about mark

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 4:08 pm
  16. Adaon Says:

    What i love about this comic is the setting, the fun, the good-humored jokes. What makes me come back is that i like and care about all the charakters; something that only happens if one perceives them as real in their heart, even if the mind tells me that they are just imaginary.
    And so my heart sighs with you, Abbie, as the friend of my soul that i will never meet, for you are not of my world, nor i of yours. And yet i wish you well with all my heart.

    May your sigh stem from the fact that you will bring sad tidings to Mark, whom you see as a friend, or from a feeling of loneliness, or both: I hope and wish to see you smile again.

    And i wish i could tell you this: This, too, shall pass. You are young, talented, brave, beautiful, gifted, compassionate. You will find and experience good times again. Of this, i am certain. So for now, i do wish you peace of mind and soul. Because dark times must be lived through as well. I know that, even though i would wish for you to never experience it.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 5:02 pm
  17. Cyrus Says:

    Frank, that’s probably because everyone else at the table already knows how Mark is doing.

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 5:55 pm
  18. Scia Says:

    Are those last panels about Mark? I bet they’re about Mark. XD;

    …Personally, I *DO* think’s it’s more than a bit unfair to label him as “violent” over ONE instance of him lashing out – while terribly upset – and ESPECIALLY when all he did was *shove* the guy… and then stop himself immediately.

    I mean, really, I barely consider a single shove “violence” – I was surprised when it was revealed that was all that Mark did. And yeah, I mean, sure, I guess it’s okay to acknowledge that something *did* happen – and maybe, possibly, *COULD* happen. But to effectively label Mark as “dangerous” and to shun him? That’s the LAST thing he needs right now. =(

    Come on! Hug the monster! =D

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 7:47 pm
  19. Zoken Says:

    I hope Abbie’s okay. She’s helping Mark and being an advocate for him, and having to stand up to Joel earlier (I know it was minor, but still), and cheering on her friends’ new relationship.
    I don’t see Abbie talk about herself much. I know some people put on that goofy persona as a shield, or they push feelings down because the think it would burden their friends. I always worry about the manic pixie-girl characters, that they are putting on a smile when they don’t want to because “that’s what everyone expects”. And over time having to hide everything that isn’t a smile can become so tiring.
    What I’m not projecting, your pro… whatever. Abbie is a fave and I hope she’s okay

    Posted May 7th, 2020 at 11:19 pm
  20. Paperiahma Says:

    I’m worried about Abby, but also very intrigued to see just what is eating up at her. She’s such a cheery, energetic person it’s easy to forget she could have A LOT going on under her bubbly mask. The situation with Mark and the discussion with Katie seem like the most obvious topics. Especially since she feels uncomfortable with these kind of complex situations. But, I’m also wondering if her unhappiness about her job and keeping it a secret is eating away at her. Being in an unhappy job sucks and in a long period of time, it can get tougher and tougher. And yeah, she could be feeling a bit like third wheel. I felt a bit like that when my best friend began to date her current husband. I was happy for them, of course, but it took a while to adjust to the fact that it wasn’t just our dynamic duo anymore and I felt like an outsider even when I was hanging around with them.

    Anyway, just my speculations here. Looking forward to the update^^

    Posted May 8th, 2020 at 3:08 am
  21. Necrisha Says:

    Ah, the old smile as a shield against one’s own emotional state maneuver. How I know you far too well.

    Posted May 8th, 2020 at 7:21 am
  22. Fabfunk von Cronenberg Says:

    I’ve been sailing the Mark and Abby ship for years now. FULL STEAM AHEAD!

    Posted May 8th, 2020 at 9:14 am
  23. Meadblondie Says:

    @Zoken being the bouncy girl myself, and also dealing with depression I can only state for myself: it’s not an act or a mask to hide behind (at least most of the time) For me it’s more like who I really am in contrast to the illness. But there are times where I (and others I’ve met) tend to celebrate life and the sunny sides a little bit excessively, almost desperately because we know those moments are fleeting and we know what rock bottom feels like. I know that it can be difficult for others to handle such extra-ness sometimes, up to the point of being annoyed.

    Posted May 8th, 2020 at 10:02 am
  24. BrotherFlounder Says:

    This could be about Mark, yeah, but I read this one as being much more about Abbie feeling lonely, particularly juxtaposed with the last couple strips of Joel/Steph and Abbie/Hadeed stuff. And Dustin’s still with Ravenia. I’ve been there after many board game nights and D&D sessions with friends. You’re riding high, having fun with everyone, but as folks go back off to their spouses or partners, it can feel very very lonely once you get home.

    Posted May 8th, 2020 at 11:11 am
  25. Manzeppi Says:

    Abby needs a date.

    Posted May 8th, 2020 at 1:00 pm
  26. Beth Says:

    Isn’t Hadeed too old to be embarrassed by the concept of smooching?

    And poor Abby. More drama has been dumped on her and the only thing she’s guilty of is being friendly and easy to talk to.

    Posted May 9th, 2020 at 5:01 am
  27. Cicada Says:

    Honestly, I just… ugh, I don’t really get why people are saying Abbie should date someone. She’s got plenty of reasons to be sad that don’t involve wanting smooches, a sentiment she has continually disagreed with. Especially Mark. Can’t people just let Abbie be Abbie, the way Alina has always been written her, a way that means so much to me? She doesn’t need a boy for a happy ending, and that idea is frankly disgusting to me. She’s probably not asexual/aromantic, and that’s fine. You don’t have to be ace/aro to be uninterested in dating. Seeing someone who doesn’t have romance at the center of their lives, who doesn’t need that to be happy, who doesn’t “need” a date? Alina writing that has meant the world to me as someone who is ace/aro. There’s nothing wrong with her for not dating people. So thank you, Alina. Even if she does eventually end up being interested in someone, that would be fine. But I just don’t see any evidence of that right now.
    Also, @Scarecrow. There’s um, a huge difference between “forcibly changing someone’s personality” and “trying to deal with anger and self-esteem issues that make him a danger to himself and sometimes to others”. He wasn’t really happy before, he was just not dealing with his issues. The things that people are trying to change about Mark are the fact that he feels ashamed about the things he likes, the fact that he shoved someone because he was angry, and the fact that he hurt himself. Those are things that both Mark and the group are invested in changing because they aren’t good things. Tolerance is not the same thing as enabling someone.
    And to everyone who’s saying that it was just a little violence and that people like Katie should be there for Mark- people aren’t responsible for Mark’s emotional state. Shoving someone is, in fact, crossing a line. Mark isn’t a bad person, but he does have issues he needs to deal with. However, not everyone can see what we’re seeing- not everyone was there when he shoved Ravenia. And so deciding that they’re not comfortable being around someone who’s done that is, in fact, their choice. Being someone’s friend doesn’t mean you should be hanging out with them if you feel unsafe. They’re not permanently banning him, they’re not punishing him, they’re trying to get some space so that they can feel safe. Mark has a therapist to take care of his needs. Other people need to take care of themselves and feel safe, an example I hope Mark can learn from.
    Probably going to regret this but, well. This story is an amazing one, and I can’t help that it means a lot to me. Thanks again for everything you’ve written, Alina, from the lighthearted and fun to the serious.

    Posted May 9th, 2020 at 2:31 pm
  28. HousePet Says:

    I think the situation is more that Abbie is unhappy, but doesn’t really talk to anyone about her problems. Abbie is always listening/talking to other people about what is bothering them. They always seem to assume that Abbie cannot be unhappy. But then, she doesn’t let them see that.
    I don’t think she’s even told her friends that she works at Subway.

    Posted May 9th, 2020 at 7:06 pm
  29. Lee Says:

    I’m on team “I think she’s bummed about Mark” since she’s looking at her phone. I’m also still on team “it’s bullshit to make a friend’s friend be the bearer of bad news.” I get it, I do, I’m the Katie in the situation, but I just don’t think it’s fair to put someone in the middle like this. Just shoot him a text and tell him he’s not welcome in your group any more, but don’t make someone else take the heat for you.

    Posted May 10th, 2020 at 12:45 am
  30. C.A. Collins Says:

    Bipolar mood disorder.?

    Posted May 10th, 2020 at 8:31 am
  31. Marie Says:

    @Cicada there is a difference between asking someone to help and dumping responsibility on someone else. Katie did the latter, the wording she gave offered no way to refuse and assumed the affirmative. It was really manipulative language, even if she didn’t realize it. Katie’s intent may be moral, but her actions are seriously toxic to Abbie AND Mark, and she needs to reevaluate the root of her own paranoia and take responsibility.

    Posted May 10th, 2020 at 11:57 am
  32. Cicada Says:

    Yeah, that part I agree with- it wasn’t fair to get Abbie to do that. That wasn’t what I meant to address, but good to clear that up.

    Posted May 12th, 2020 at 11:38 am