Shippers gonna ship
Shippers gonna ship

A little flashback to the fight Abbie was talking about

News: Posted May 19th, 2020 by Alina

^ 53 Comments to “Shippers gonna ship”

  1. SerranoHam Says:

    Wonder if Mark is connected in anyway… lol

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 6:34 pm
  2. ChefNutmeg Says:

    I’m wondering if Abbie is Ace. Had a roomie who was.

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 6:46 pm
  3. Saronian Says:

    I am not surprised. Is it just me, or does it seem like she is a bit isolated from others?

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 7:13 pm
  4. Drazi Says:

    totally ace reaction to me. Why would i have a crush on someone? What’s hot? Someone’s brain, though…….

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 7:36 pm
  5. Need_To_Comment_Rising Says:

    Oh my God. I’ve headcanon-ed Abbie as aro/ace for a long time now, but I was very skeptical when people said that she actually was and that this was her “coming out”. But I’m starting to see it. It could be (I’m still cautious, I don’t want to get my hopes up). This could actually be the first canon aro/ace character I see in a piece of media I like, and it comes in one of my favourite characters from one of my favourite webcomics. This could be HUGE for my little aro/ace heart. o.O

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 7:39 pm
  6. ozzi Says:

    I hope Dustins series 5 story is a happy one……

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 8:14 pm
  7. Scia Says:

    Mmkay… So I’m guessing that Abbie is probably ace and/or aro.

    Regardless, it’s also possible that she’s been ‘shipped a lot and/or been pressured to get into a relationship, which might have soured her to the treatment. It’s also possible that she’s just plain frustrated, especially if she really HAS gotten this from Sarah before and asked her (or anyone else, really) to stop.

    I can relate. -.-;;

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 8:46 pm
  8. Scia Says:

    Also, the part where Sarah denies/ignores what Abbie said about her feelings and such. I can also relate to that. >.<;;;

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 8:49 pm
  9. Willo Says:

    I think this is post-returning from the game and she’s already kind of mentally upset about what Katie asked her to do and a small annoyance from Sarah was enough to set her off. Not making a positive or a denial on her orientation, but this seems like her being keyed up over something and given that she said she didn’t want to talk about it when Sarah asked to talk about it I’m guessing she doesn’t want to bring up more feelings of guilt in Sarah since she probably still blames herself a lot for Mark being in the situation he’s in. It’s partially her fault Jess broke up with him and she may blame herself yet for being part of the reason he was open for Ravenia to pursue that lead to everything coming to a head for Mark eventually.

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 10:10 pm
  10. Cyrus Says:

    Willo, the fight with Sarah happened yesterday in comic time. This is a flashback. It was definitely pre-game and pre-talk with Katie.

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 11:08 pm
  11. I think we have a case of a repressed crush on Mark here.

    Posted May 20th, 2020 at 11:50 pm
  12. HousePet Says:

    I feel like Abbie was directing this at the comments. XD

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 12:32 am
  13. Willo Says:

    @Cyrus, on rereading the page you are correct. My bad. lol.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 2:10 am
  14. Kheldarson Says:

    Not to completely deny the aro/ace angle, but this was totally me when I had an unrequited crush or just felt lonely from my single status. It’s hard to hear dating friends tease you about fictional crushes, as if that’s all you’re good for 🙁

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 2:14 am
  15. Andy Says:

    Not saying Abby’s not ace, but this doesn’t have to be connected to that. It’d be extremely annoying to have someone calling out your nonexistent crushes no matter what sexuality you are.

    But I also won’t be surprised if this is a lead-in to Abby confirming she’s ace.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 7:03 am
  16. Kobold Says:

    I get that. You don’t have to be ace/aro to get pissed when people constantly project their ideals on you. There may be a thousand reasons to get touchy around the subject

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 7:07 am
  17. Madcat Says:

    It looks to me like Sarah was projecting a little there.
    I wonder what lead up to this outburst?

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 7:43 am
  18. jackalkat Says:

    …my ace senses are tingling…I have been in her shoes…

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 8:02 am
  19. Meadblondie Says:

    I’m with HousePet here. This seems more directed at the commentsection XD Abbie already stated in a Q&A that her love life was not our nor anyone else’s “beewax” Somebody has to reeeally explain to me how speculation on someone’s affinity/sexual preferences is in ANY terms better than all that “oh you just need a girl/boyfriend” and other hetero- and monogamy normative crap 🤷‍♀

    Yeah blabla this is a fictional comic character but point still stands.
    “gossip is normal” and all that shit in RealLife(tm)

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 8:11 am
  20. Cyrus Says:

    The fact that there are commenters who are STILL trying to make this all about Mark is the clearest case of aro/ace invisibility I have ever seen.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 8:29 am
  21. CelticDragon38 Says:

    Need_To_Comment_Rising: Have you heard of Widdershins? It’s another webcomic with an aro/ace character (O’Malley). He doesn’t show up immediately because the comic is set up in chapters with each chapter covering a different group of people, but he’s important enough to the overarching storyline to be in several of them.

    I’ve also been getting ace vibes off Abbie for a while and had been assuming she’s somewhere on that end of the sexual or romantic spectrum. The frustration of people shoving their expectations on you and doubling down when you tell them they’re wrong is real. Worse, they’re confirming that’s how they see you. Even moreso here since it’s coming from Abbie’s *best friend*.
    I could hear the *exact tone* Abby used when she said, “No, I *don’t*.” ’cause I’ve used it myself. It doesn’t leave any room for interpretation, yet people do anyways ’cause expectations can make onet one-deaf. Even if I’ve been interpreting her category wrong, that tone was still a clear “You’re wrong, stop.” and Sarah didn’t listen.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 9:06 am
  22. Corneel Says:

    Total side quest(ion), apart from the main quest(ion) of Abbie’s possible orientation: is there a series such as we get a glimpse from in this strip?

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 9:54 am
  23. Dakhran Says:

    Ohh I totally get this, between last comic and this flashback. It’s starting to feel like Abby is ace but doesn’t know it yet, hence the “weird and broken” comment. As someone who relatively recently went through the discovery and self-realization bit, before you even know that asexuality is a thing that exists, you think maybe it’s something wrong with you, that you’re not “normal”…

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 10:01 am
  24. Aileen Says:

    Is she, in fact, ace/aro? *raises eyebrow*
    Would be nice. So damn nice.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 10:07 am
  25. Velgar Says:

    Flipping out and yelling “I don’t want to talk about it” is pretty much the surest way of telling people that there’s stuff you should talk about.

    Also best way of giving your friends huge migraines while they try to get you to talk, which you definitely need, but clearly haven’t accepted yourself. Good luck to the rest of the cast.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 10:31 am
  26. Scarecrow Says:

    Ooof! Yeah, HousePet, I get that, too. (will stop the wish fulfillment!)

    Alternately, it could also be a bi-product of proximity to Sarah, who, let’s face it, seems to be THAT PERSON in the group who always pounces on the cute newcomers, without looking left or right – and every one needs to give way to those impulses. She did it with Mark, with Hadid, and even with Damien (until Hadid mildly bapped her with a rolled up newspaper). And she’s mindless/uncaring of the fallouts as she drifts on without any real concern or awareness of the rubble left behind. Maybe that’s her jam, and that’s okay in a way, but it definitely has had a cost for other people. Sarah’s super sweet and sharp, but this -is- a thing about her.

    Being so close to Abbie might mean Abbie sees – and gets – it over and over: Sarah’s non-stop romantic projections (and hoarding).

    Then again, it very well may be that Abbie is ace/aro and trying to deal with finding the comfort zone in the world around. So, virtual apologies to a fictional character, and I’ll keep my ships in the harbor from here on out!

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 11:52 am
  27. Cicada Says:

    Abbie- “Stop shipping me with people, I’m not interested!”
    The comments- “Could this mean she’s interested in Mark?”

    For real though I feel this so much. It’s hard to have just a normal TV show or something happen, and then romance comes in and it just feels like a reminder that you’re different. That feeling of isolation hasn’t been as bad as I’ve gotten older, but every now and then I feel that.
    Just… the way all of this is written is so incredibly vivid and real to me. So consider this Cicada’s daily “Alina thank you so much” :). Seriously. Thank you.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 11:56 am
  28. Juliette Thomson Says:

    Huh. I…would think “Hey Abbie, please deal with my relationship issues, thanks” would be more on her mind than “A friend made a joke that unintentionally got under my skin.”

    To be fair, it’s always the little things that really get to us. I am curious.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 2:56 pm
  29. Juliette Thomson Says:

    Actually…I gotta give props to Willo on that one.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 2:57 pm
  30. Shinjischneider Says:

    I’m honestly confused. I thought it had been established that Abbie was ace a long time ago.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 4:26 pm
  31. fromtheothersideofthefence Says:

    Abbie doesnt seem mature enough to have a relationship. Almost like a child.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 4:59 pm
  32. Shalace Says:

    Could go any way at this point. It’s not just ace/aro people that don’t like being teased like that, or get frustrated when it happens.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 7:00 pm
  33. RBuckalew Says:

    +1 for HousePet. Everyone in the comments section talks about how Abbie’s either ace or secretly interested in Mark. She rejected reader speculation some time ago in a mailbag episode.

    I get that people are interested, and excited to be represented in the comic, but as Mr Incredible said: “We get there when we get there!” And nobody seems to talk about anything else.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 8:12 pm
  34. ozzi Says:

    She simply could be happy being single. Some people are.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 8:44 pm
  35. Nathan Reinecke Says:

    Abbie, sweetie, this isn’t arguing over whether a werewolf is hot.

    Posted May 21st, 2020 at 9:29 pm
  36. Buttery Commissar Says:

    I mean I’m ace, but you don’t have to be ace to find this sort of behaviour frustrating. Not yelling-argument frustrating, admittedly. Poor Abbs seems stressed.

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 6:59 am
  37. TheDarkTyger Says:

    @Shinjischneider

    Nope. Nothing has ever been said, suggested, or even hinted at about her orientation. Just several people wishfully speculating. Could be true. But there’s no definite or even particular strong indication either way.

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 7:28 am
  38. Bagge Says:

    A lot of people who are a lot smarter than me caught this already last strip but – yeah, this is not about the werewolf. This is about Abbie

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 8:32 am
  39. SolitareLee Says:

    *strongly relates in aromantic*

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 8:34 am
  40. Ioana Says:

    Abbie being ace confirmed!

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 12:17 pm
  41. ozziog Says:

    Are good smelling aromantics, aromatic?

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 12:59 pm
  42. lovefleetadmiral Says:

    Either she has feelings for someone and can’t act on them (either they are taken or not interested in her) and is frustrated or she is Aro/ace and just getting tired of it

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 2:15 pm
  43. Weatherheight Says:

    I’ve never truly understood teasing someone about who they like – always seemed pretty cruel to me, given that most folks can be some degree of insecure about anyone they’re attracted to. Very 10 years old.
    “I know! Let’s poke at the Bobbi’s sensitive spot for kicks and giggles!”
    Nice. Real nice.

    But I trend ace, so it might mot be helpful to put too much stock in anything I say about romance.

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 2:58 pm
  44. PokeyPuppy Says:

    Meadblondie says: i’m with HousePet here. This seems more directed at the commentsection XD Abbie already stated in a Q&A that her love life was not our nor anyone else’s “beewax” Somebody has to reeeally explain to me how speculation on someone’s affinity/sexual preferences is in ANY terms better than all that “oh you just need a girl/boyfriend” and other hetero- and monogamy normative crap 🤷‍

    It’s different because hetero- and monogamy normative crap is exactly that – normative. Seeing potential representation in a character we love when we NEVER. SEE. ANY. is completely different.

    I’m not going to be crushed or anything if Abby isn’t ace/aro, but I am almost in tears because she MIGHT be. I didn’t realize I was ace/aro until I was forty, because I didn’t even know it existed. Having representation matters. Seeing characters figure this shit out before they’re middle-aged matters. So much

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 3:15 pm
  45. Meadblondie Says:

    @ RBuckalew *the office-thank you.gif* XD my thoughts exactly! (see my last comment on this page)

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 4:30 pm
  46. Scarecrow Says:

    @Pokey, I don’t think anyone can, because you seem resistant to any perspective on it. Your perspective is fed by YOUR experience and YOUR perspective. And you appear to want everyone to defer to that. Is that any ‘better’ than “hetero- and monogamy normative crap” that you perceive in others wanting everyone else to defer to them?

    The moment you try to control what others think is the moment you’ve lost the argument/discussion/”dialogue” (I love how that word has become warped!). It’s a helluva slippery slope, isn’t it?? We can complain about what other people think, but we don’t want others to complain about what WE think. Kinda funny. Kinda sad.

    Many don’t seem to realize that a slippery slope always goes in both directions. Keep piling up the resistance from one direction to resist some unwanted thing…and it causes an inevitable slippery slope in the opposite directions. (Ah, but then it’s MY slippery slope, so it’s okay!)

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 6:18 pm
  47. Shinjischneider Says:

    Tiger. I checked again.

    Valentines Day 2018.

    There was a “whoever you Love”-post.

    A gay couple
    A lesbian couple
    A heterosexual couple
    And Abbie with a iPod.

    So there are extremely strong indications for her being ace/aro.

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 8:37 pm
  48. Julez Says:

    Ah, Abbie seems to be ace. This is actually not all that surprising.

    Posted May 22nd, 2020 at 10:11 pm
  49. Quarion Says:

    https://www.weregeek.com/2016/08/04/

    None of our business then, none of our business now.

    Posted May 24th, 2020 at 4:15 am
  50. Scarecrow Says:

    Yeah, this whole “none of our business” bit doesn’t age well. NONE of this comic strip is any of our business, if you want to look at it like that! None of Abbie’s angst for whatever reason, Mark’s therapy (what happened to confidentiality?), Joel’s maybe/maybe not incipient proposal, Sarah’s dating life, etc. etc….NONE of it is our business!

    We’re shown these stories. We’re given access to a forum that invites commentary on it. We respond with various degrees of glee or angst, and share our thoughts. It’s freakin’ silly for a few folks to say, “Wait! This particular thing is none of our (really, your) business because I deem it so!”

    Either it all applies, or none of it applies. You can’t eat your cake and have it, too.

    Posted May 25th, 2020 at 3:34 pm
  51. Adaon Says:

    I am actually Sarah in this.. oftentimes i enjoy something so much that i project this feeling unto others..

    Posted May 25th, 2020 at 5:45 pm
  52. swagbeard Says:

    I got the feeling that Abbie herself does not (yet) know or does not want to put a label on her (a)sexuality.
    On that matter: While i think, explicit respresentation in the text is incredibly important and I’d be really happy for a coming-to-terms storyline for Abbie, there’s also this expectation of characters in fiction (and really for people in real life as well), especially women, to be interested in dating and sex and if you’re not, you must be asexual – because why on earth wouldn’t you be interested otherwise?!
    Oh and by the way: Ace/Aro people do date and have relationships.
    So in conclusion I’d say there’s also a point to be made for not making things explicit and just having characters who do not date.

    Posted May 26th, 2020 at 7:45 am
  53. Bio Says:

    This strip itself sheds no light on her sexuality, in and of itself. Being teased about having a crush on someone you don’t have a crush on is annoying no matter whom or what you might actually have (or not have!) a crush on. I don’t know why people are saying this indicates that she’s ace. Assumption makes an ass out of your gumption.

    Posted May 26th, 2020 at 5:54 pm

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